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		<title>Yellow Lab in Desktop Magazine</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 05:57:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Matthew Magain from Desktop magazine wrote an article about the work we are doing at Sensis in the Yellow Lab project of which I&#8217;m the technical lead. The Lab&#8216;s purpose it to explore new business models, user experiences and technologies and the article goes on to talk about the things we&#8217;ve done. We are honored [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://desktopmag.com.au/"><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-69" title="desktop_cover" src="http://stateofflux.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/desktop_cover.jpg" alt="desktop_cover" width="147" height="185" />Matthew Magain</a> from Desktop magazine <a href="http://magain.com/blog/article/76/desktop-247-poking-around-the-lab">wrote an article about the work we are doing at Sensis</a> in the Yellow Lab project of which I&#8217;m the technical lead.  <a href="http://yellowlab.com.au/">The Lab</a>&#8216;s purpose it to explore new business models, user experiences and technologies and the article goes on to talk about the things we&#8217;ve done.</p>
<p>We are honored that <a href="http://desktopmag.com.au/">Desktop Magazine</a> thought highly enough of our work to showcase us.  Thanks to Matt and the whole desktop team.</p>
<p>Go on, <a href="http://yellowlab.com.au/">try out Yellow Lab</a>.</p>
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		<title>Google and Sensis &#8211; The reports of my death are greatly exaggerated[2]</title>
		<link>http://stateofflux.com/2008/11/04/google-and-sensis-the-reports-of-my-death-are-greatly-exaggerated-2/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 07:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>mark</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[These are my opinions of what is going on and not those of Sensis. Fairfax (The Age and Sydney Morning Herald) are running a story titled Sensis concedes defeat to Google2. It’s a great headline, but it is very misleading. There are two facts in the announcement – syndication and search. Syndication Yellow Pages Australia [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<h4>These <strong>are my opinions</strong> of what is going on and not those of Sensis.</h4>
<p>Fairfax (The Age and Sydney Morning Herald) are running a story titled Sensis concedes defeat to Google<sup><a href="#fn2">2</a></sup>.  It’s a great headline, but it is very misleading.  There are two facts in <a href="http://about.sensis.com.au/news/media_releases/mediaRelease.php?id=20081103">the announcement</a> – syndication and search.</p>
<h3>Syndication</h3>
<p><a href="http://yellow.com.au/">Yellow Pages Australia</a> is syndicating it’s data.  They’ve had a commercial aggreement with NineMSN for a very long time which allows Yellow Pages data to be used within the <a href="http://mylocal.ninemsn.com.au/search.aspx?action=search&amp;what=bunnings&amp;where=port%20melbourne&amp;type=1">NineMSN search</a>.  The new announcement extends the syndication of Yellow data to include <a href="http://maps.google.com.au">GoogleMaps Australia</a>.</p>
<p>If you are a Yellow Pages advertiser this means your advertisement can be found in more places.  Therefore the Yellow Pages ad you bought is now even more valuable.  Win!</p>
<h3>Search on Sensis.com.au</h3>
<p>Here is a nice quote from previously mentioned FairFax<sup><a href="#fn2">2</a></sup> artcile – ‘and abandon its own search engine for one powered by Google’.  The site in questiohn, sensis.com.au, currently has searches of all of the sensis properties – yellow, white, trading post <span class="caps">AND</span> the web – a one stop shop for searching the Sensis properties.  Outsourcing the web search on Sensis.com.au makes perfect sense as Internet search is not Sensis’ core competancy.  If you are going to outsource your search it should be to someone who knows how to do it like <a href="http://google.com.au/">Google</a>, <a href="http://search.yahoo.com.au/">Yahoo</a> or <a href="http://live.com/">Microsoft</a>.  Sensis went with Google.  Not too shocking really.</p>
<p>The Yellow Pages, to my knowledge, will remain powered by <a href="http://yellow.com.au/">yellow.com.au</a> which is build by <a href="http://www.whereis.com/vic/melbourne/222-226-lonsdale-st?id=3DB05F68B1090D">Sensis in Melbourne</a>.</p>
<p id="fn1"><sup>1</sup> <a href="http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=191570">The reports of my death are greatly exaggerated</a></p>
<p id="fn2"><sup>2</sup> <a href="http://www.theage.com.au/news/technology/biztech/sensis-concedes-defeat-to-google/2008/11/03/1225560716428.html">Sensis concedes defeat to Google</a></p>
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		<title>Yellow Lab &#8211; Sensis innovates</title>
		<link>http://stateofflux.com/2008/10/28/yellow-lab-sensis-innovates/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 10:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I’ve been at Sensis for a year now and my latest project is Yellow Lab . The Yellow Pages is a significant part of the Sensis and Telstra portfolio earning 1,273 million dollars in revenue (p34) during 2007/8 which includes both print and online revenue. Yellow Pages is a product that you only change when [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’ve been at <a href="http://yellowlab.com.au/">Sensis</a> for a year now and my latest project is <a href="http://yellowlab.com.au/">Yellow Lab</a> .  The Yellow Pages is a significant part of the Sensis and Telstra portfolio earning <a href="http://www.asx.com.au/asx/statistics/showAnnouncementPDF.do?idsID=00890364">1,273 million dollars in revenue</a> (p34) during 2007/8 which includes both print and online revenue.  Yellow Pages is a product that you only change when you are absolutely sure you’re going to make it better.  <a href="http://yellowlab.com.au/">Labs</a> was created to trail ideas for Yellow Online and mitigate risk in delivering new features.  The ideas we trail are product, technical and user experience related.</p>
<h3>It’s built on Rails</h3>
<p>This is the first public site that Sensis has built in Rails.  The momentum has been building within Sensis for a while but nothing of this scale has made it out to the public.  Rails was chosen because it allowed Sensis to get to market quickly.  From development to deployment, Rails has been a win.  We’ve had many developers rotate through the project already, all of them have picked up Ruby and Rails very quickly with more experienced devs passing on their knowledge.  That’s a win for <a href="http://rubyonrails.com/">Ruby and Rails</a> .</p>
<h3>Microformats everywhere</h3>
<p>The Yellow Pages has a lot of data.  Every single search result, and listing, is microformatted.  I’ll be writing a separate post about this very soon, but it is really exciting stuff.</p>
<h3>Building a search engine</h3>
<p>We put a lot of time and effort into search.  It’s hard and it’s fun.  It also crosses all elements of the business from product management to user experience to technology.  It is certainly more complicated than performing <span class="caps">LIKE</span> queries on a database or installing <a href="http://www.sphinxsearch.com/">Sphinx</a> or <a href="http://lucene.apache.org/solr/">Solr</a> .  Business rules, physical locality, voting and tags all need to contribute towards getting a good result.</p>
<h3>Aggregated Listings</h3>
<p>Yellow Pages is a directory at it’s heart which lends itself to browsing rather than searching.  Let’s say you’re looking for hardware in Port Melbourne.  In a print world you’d flick open the book, look for the hardware category and then thumb your way through until you find a business that works for you.  Big businesses like Bunnings would list themselves under hardware, but they may also list themselves under Nurseries as they also sell plants.  That’s an awesome solution to the book because Bunnings can now be found in several places throughout the book.  That’s a win for the business advertising and its a win for the user as they can find what you are after more easily.</p>
<p>When directories put their info online you usually have a modified browse experience where you have to select a category and then you can search within a category.  For example, you say your looking for a Hardware store in Port Melbourne and find that Bunnings turns up.  This is the way the <a href="http://yellow.com.au/">core</a> site works.</p>
<p>We wanted change the experience of finding businesses from a directory browsing experience to an internet style search.  One hitch, if you put these listings online and search for <a href="http://yellowpages.com.au/search/listingsSearch.do?region=australia&amp;businessName=Bunnings&amp;sortByDetail=false&amp;sortByAlphabetical=false&amp;sortByClosestMatch=true&amp;areaId=1162&amp;sortByDistance=false&amp;sortBy=closestMatch&amp;rankWithTolls=true&amp;stateId=2&amp;safeLocationClue=Port%20Melbourne%20VIC&amp;serviceAreaModifiedByUser=true&amp;localityId=26959&amp;locationClue=Port%20Melbourne%20VIC&amp;serviceArea=false&amp;locationText=Port%20Melbourne%20VIC&amp;suburbPostcode=3207">Bunnings in Port Melbourne</a> you’ll now find two entries (actually 5 on the site), one for Hardware and one for Nurseries – and that sucks if you are looking online.  So we’ve <a href="http://yellowlab.com.au/search/results?q=bunnings&amp;l=port+melbourne">aggregated listings together</a> that are from the same businesses using some jiggery pokery to provide a single view of a business.  It’s not perfect but it makes a big difference – it definitely solves 80% of the problem.</p>
<h3>Sweet, sweet maps</h3>
<p>Whereis has freaking good maps, despite Google having customer mind-share on maps.  You can <a href="http://www.whereis.com/vic/melbourne/222-226-lonsdale-st?id=3B98F2AD419354">zoom in and see buildings with names</a> and they have map data that gets updated regularly.  You can send a location right to you <span class="caps">GPS</span> device, but in general, it is really well tailored to the Aussie market.  Besides they look much nicer than the current Yellow Pages maps and so we’ve put them on <a href="http://yellowlab.com.au/businesses/vic/port-melbourne/bunnings">Yellow Labs</a> .</p>
<h3>User generated content</h3>
<p>Dude… We are so Web 2.0 – finally.  We’ve got tagging (which we index immediately in our search engine so you can find em quickly) and user ratings in the form of “WOMming”.  The tech is straight forward, and the features may seem obvious but how does this fit in to being an innovation platform?  Finding out how things work in the real world is hard and the questions we are asking are more social.  So we’ll build it and test if and how people use it?  Do we moderate tagging contect?  How?  Does a ‘positive’ only recommendation work?  Let build something and find out.</p>
<h3>The future starts now</h3>
<p>We have just dropped the very first iteration of Yellow Lab.  It is rough and ready.  This is the beggining of the adventure, not the end.  We are going to put new features in and rip out features once we’ve finished learning from a feature.  Trying out a new idea, measuring its success and deciding to go forward – or to throw it away – helps the business make better decision.  There is some good stuff coming down the pike.  Keep coming back to the <a href="http://yellowlab.com.au/">Lab</a> on a regular basis to check out what is new as we update the site several times a month – and please send us feedback.</p>
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